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Notes from meeting held at Fairfield Hall on Wednesday, 5th February at 7.30pm regarding proposed CPZ Parking Scheme.

 

Mike Heywood (Planning and Transportation Department) spoke first to explain the reasons behind the scheme.

4,800 leaflets had been printed and were to be distributed by a distribution company to 93 streets but 33 streets did not have leaflets delivered.

The map on the form shows a consultation area only. He also said that CPZs, instead of managed street and controlled parking, were to stop all day commuter parking.

The money raised from CPZ schemes goes into an account for parking and transport related issues. They are looking at the possibility of the first permit being FOC. He then made a promise that if the forms showed that we did not want a scheme in this area we would not have to have it.

He also said that as the first distribution process had been severely flawed, he was willing to start again if everyone wanted that.

The next stage would be that detailed designs would be drawn up and posted in local libraries for 21 days. Residents etc would then be re-consulted and a second opinion canvassed. He also said that if the residents of Northwood Hills did not want the scheme they would not get it. If it was rejected now, there would not be an opportunity to have the scheme again for a long time and it would be offered to another area.

The Chairman then asked for questions from the audience which were mainly answered by Mike Heywood and Jonathan Bianco:

A member of the audience asked whether any of the councillors or representatives from the council would be affected by this? Two of the councillors do live in the area.

A member of the audience asked how the council would pay for a re-consultation if this was decided? It would come out of the parking revenue account.

If the vote was 50/50 what would they do? The design would be drawn up and people re-consulted.

The final date for returning the forms was 3rd February. Obviously this date had already gone before a lot of people had received their forms, what were they going to do about that? They said that the date would be extended but they didn’t seem to know what the new date was. The Chairman asked for a definite date and they agreed to 13th February.

A member of the audience asked what would happen if your road was in the middle of the scheme and the majority voted not to have CPZ? Mike Heywood said that a road in the middle couldn’t be excluded but he then contradicted himself shortly afterwards by saying that if the majority didn’t want the scheme they wouldn’t have to have it.

It was asked why for the first car the permit would cost £20 and the second £30 etc? No-one had an answer to that question, although they did say that there might be the possibility of a free first permit!

It was asked why they could not have yellow lines with no parking for one hour in the middle of the day? Mike Heywood said they would be too difficult to enforce and doesn’t work.

It was asked whether the distribution company had been paid? Mike Heywood said that he thought they shouldn’t be but no one seemed to know if they had or not.

It was asked why the local car park had been sold? The councillors said it was sold before their time but when it was sold it was thought that social housing would be built there, they say they were opposed. They cannot buy it back as it now belongs to the office block and they have a 125 year lease.

It was asked how the council can ensure that the process is valid considering all the problems there have been and will it be done properly in the future? They was no real answer to point one but Mike Heywood said he had today asked for a review of how consultation takes place.

Someone asked how the percentages would be worked out as it was said that so far 37% of the forms sent out had been returned. Was this 37% of the 4,800 or of the ones actually delivered? If there are 100 houses in a road and they have 37 replies and half or more of the 37 are for the scheme, then the road is likely to be included.

Someone asked if a particular street collects 50% or more of names on a petition would it be counted? The answer to that question was to wait until the report has been compiled before petitions will be considered.

 

The Chairman then asked for specific people to put forward their points:

Speaker from St Vincent’s Residents’ Association: Was unhappy with the late or non-delivery of the forms and the fact that they were supposed to be confidential but were not really when sent back. Also that they had called meetings and Mr Bianco had not turned up to them.

Mr Morano representing the shop tenants: General talk of a similar scheme in Hampstead. He also wanted to know if the meeting was effective or a waste of time. He suggested that a vote should be taken tonight. It is the only local area without a public car park and that is affecting trade which would only be made worse by the CPZ.

Governor of Northwood School: He lives in Northwood Way at the shop end and has been a school governor for 15 years. In his view as a school governor there should not be CPZs In answer to a point that the congestion charging in London might affect local parking, he wanted to know why the scheme hadn’t been left a few months longer to ascertain that. CPZs are not helping residents in Harrow. Also on a personal level, he does not object to people parking outside his house to go to the local shops and knows that his neighbours feel the same.

Local Resident – nurse: Wanted to know why nurses have to pay for permits. There was an answer to that question from one of the council people who seemed to think that nurses wouldn’t have to pay for permits but that is not clear on the form, from that it seems that they would.

Mr Hooper, Mount Park Road – representing himself: If someone wants to park their car over their own driveway why shouldn’t they be able to. He is hoping that as they are near the boundary they may be able to opt out.

There was then a general question from someone in the audience asking where the results of the count would be available. We would be able to look in local libraries or www.hillingdon.gov.uk.

General question: why could residents not have free parking and charge commuters? No real answer to that question.

Andrew Riley, Winchester Road, representing himself: Wanted to know if people don’t vote is that taken as a yes, if so that is not acceptable. Again no real answer.

A gentleman from Winchester Close: Wanted to know when cars are counted to ascertain the ‘stress levels’. Answer, the count was done during the day in the summer months.

Lady from Gerard Gardens, Old Eastcote: Had done her own count - 8 cars maximum during the day, 20 at night time, mainly residents. It would not help them.

Person from Lincoln Road: Has no driveway so has to park on the road.

Person from Middleton Road: If you have one permit you could still go and park in the roads nearer the station and take up the space. It would also be taking away the rights of people for spontaneous visits as they would always have to have a visitor’s permit.

Lady from Cranbourne Road: phoned one of the numbers on the form to speak to someone official about the CPZs who told her each road would individually need 30% against the scheme to stop it. What she had heard tonight had contradicted that.

Person from Gladsdale Drive: Not included in the scheme but thinks it all seems very vague. They did say that when a similar scheme was introduced in Eastcote the prices very quickly rose.

Tradesperson: If the scheme was introduced they would probably have to put up their prices to pay for lost trade as they felt that people would be more inclined to go to Sainsburys or similar where they didn’t have to pay.

Person from Norwich Road: Didn’t have a parking problem, there was a bit of a rush in the morning and afternoon, also they had not received their form, nor had their neighbours.

Michael Carter, trader in Northwood High Street: Not included in the scheme but traders in Northwood High Street would be affected by the scheme. He wanted to know why yellow lines and one hour non parking wasn’t an option.

David Allen, Allens Menswear Shop: 95% of his customers travel to his shop by car. If it is going to be made difficult for shoppers, a car park must be provided. He felt that if the scheme goes ahead he would have huge problems, after 56 years of trading and also thought that his business wouldn’t survive more than 12 months.

Following on from this point, Andrew Retter stated that he would look into seeing whether there were any suitable areas that could be used as car parks.

Lynn Halse, Hillside Gardens: Asked for volunteers to see her after the meeting so that there would be one person from each road that could get petitions signed.

Gentleman from Coniston Gardens: Had already done a survey and his road is 100% against it. A lot of his neighbours are elderly and although they may not have a car they would have to pay for their visitors. Until he explained this to them they had not really understood as they didn’t feel the form was clear. He asked whether a petition would be registered if submitted. This question wasn’t really answered but the form could be re-issued if that is what people want.

 

 

The Chairman then closed the meeting to give residents/traders a chance to speak to the council representatives in person.

 

 

 

 

Northwood Hills Campaign Against Parking Scheme believe this to be a true and accurate account of the proceedings.